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  • #16
    I don't see this having ANY relevance on the V3. The site itself looks very suspect as it is blocked by my firewalls. I would say that anyone that went to that facebook link that they make sure they are very careful in what you view or click on. It looks a lot like a Phishing site. Doesn't mean that it is but be careful none-the-less.

    Everyone needs to give Persu about a year to get all the initial funding and legal issues out of the way. If after a year we see they are not any further than they are now then we can probably safely say that they are just another failed business tax write off for the folks that own the company. Just sit back and relax. We have waited this long to fly the road so just hang in there and remain hopeful.

    If another company comes out with a fly the road vehicle then that is great. Number one it will smooth the road out for Persu and help speed them along. Number two is it will pull Persu in to a competitive market and that is always good for prices and for products. Number three is that we could fly the road sooner rather than later. Win/win here folks.

    Stop being the impatient Americans that we were raised to be and chill a bit. Our day will come.

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    • #17
      According to the Lynx response on Facebook, they have no plans to market the e-carver in North America.

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      • #18
        Either way, it doesn't matter. Have they magically cut down the cost of producing the carver? Who cares if they swap in batteries and a motor instead of a tank and an engine. They will still have trouble making it below 50k without mass production.

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        • #19
          Thank you, Firedawg, for being a voice of reason.

          Metalman . . . This is exactly what I thought. No North American production.

          And smoove..... Great point as well!

          So, as Firedawg put so well, we just have to sit back and wait for this baby to get put together. I started this club back in 2007 with the very strong belief that I would be driving down the road in a "V1" (as it was called back then!) by now, but it hasn't happened. Now I'm just resigned to sitting back and waiting for this to unfold. After all, there really isn't anything else we can do.
          Where we're going we don't need roads.
          -Doc Emmet Brown--Back to the future

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          • #20
            Looks like there is some news on the tilting vehicle scene. According to their FaceBook page, the Lynx E-Carver has a new redesigned front end. Looks sort of like the one on the PV V3, but again, only Europeans will be able to Fly The Road.
            https://www.facebook.com/lynxcars

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            • #21
              Lynx (Lars M) only made one e-Carver and it is not yet road legal even in Denmark I considered converting mine but it would cost too much

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              • #22
                As all now know, it is 2017 and no 75 mpg vehicles are available. The Carver is dead.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Donald1800 View Post
                  As all now know, it is 2017 and no 75 mpg vehicles are available. The Carver is dead.
                  Mine and about 60+ (out of about 200 (I still need to locate the other 140 or so)) Carvers are a live and well (so not dead )

                  Does anyone know on here how Carvers can get approved in the USA, it is a state by State thing?

                  Is the only around to be a manufacture and what does that take, could we ship parts to USA and put together in a garage?

                  Any / all information would be useful

                  We have several people interested it having Carvers in the USA

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by J8CVR View Post

                    Does anyone know on here how Carvers can get approved in the USA, it is a state by State thing?


                    We have several people interested it having Carvers in the USA
                    Yeah... I would want one! Been wanting one for over a decade. HUGE PROBLEM, though. Bringing a vehicle into America that has NOT gone through all of the EPA and DOT testing, etc., is not an easy thing to do. I checked into this years ago, and discovered the cost was prohibitive. Yes, it can be done, but it is a huge process. And, no, you can't simply bring it into your garage.... unless you are a manufacturer and can get manufacturer license plates. That's what Venture Vehicle did to get the Carvers they owned into California.

                    I suppose you could work around all of the rules and restrictions by bringing one in as a "kit" vehicle. In other words, you would have to have the Carver taken completely apart, and then shipped here one piece at a time, then put it all together as a kit car. Not sure if that would work or not. You would still have to get the registration for it, and approval as a kit car, though.

                    All I know is that when I looked into it years ago, I discovered it was just too complicated/expensive to have it done. I was going to buy a guys Carver in Europe because he was selling it relatively cheap.
                    Where we're going we don't need roads.
                    -Doc Emmet Brown--Back to the future

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                    • #25
                      How many bits does it need to be in to count as a kit car?
                      How about two, the main body and the engine pod?
                      Are there also issues with the Diahatsu engine?
                      I think that money for one of the customer is not really an issue it is more they want someone to address the complexity for them
                      It might be worth an off forum chat via email to see if we can help solve this problem?

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                      • #26
                        The person in America will have to HIRE a specialist who knows what needs to be done. Like anything else, it just takes a lot of paperwork... and money... and knowledge. It's been years since I looked into it, so I would be of zero help. But I'm sure if this guy has money, he should not have any problem finding a company willing to put this import together for him.
                        Where we're going we don't need roads.
                        -Doc Emmet Brown--Back to the future

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by J8CVR View Post
                          Mine and about 60+ (out of about 200 (I still need to locate the other 140 or so)) Carvers are a live and well (so not dead )

                          Does anyone know on here how Carvers can get approved in the USA, it is a state by State thing?

                          Is the only around to be a manufacture and what does that take, could we ship parts to USA and put together in a garage?

                          Any / all information would be useful

                          We have several people interested it having Carvers in the USA
                          The Carver is classified as a Motorcycle in the USA. My guess is the Dihatsu Engine would not meet the EPA requirements. Unsure about USA Motorcycle safety requirements. An Electric Carver would likely make it an EPA requirement non-issue, but would still have to meet MC safety compliance standards. Expensive and complex for a single vehicle unless the vehicle was initially designed and engineered to meet USA compliance standards.

                          https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...g-a-motorcycle

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Derwin View Post
                            Yeah... I would want one! Been wanting one for over a decade. HUGE PROBLEM, though. Bringing a vehicle into America that has NOT gone through all of the EPA and DOT testing, etc., is not an easy thing to do. I checked into this years ago, and discovered the cost was prohibitive. Yes, it can be done, but it is a huge process. And, no, you can't simply bring it into your garage.... unless you are a manufacturer and can get manufacturer license plates. That's what Venture Vehicle did to get the Carvers they owned into California.

                            I suppose you could work around all of the rules and restrictions by bringing one in as a "kit" vehicle. In other words, you would have to have the Carver taken completely apart, and then shipped here one piece at a time, then put it all together as a kit car. Not sure if that would work or not. You would still have to get the registration for it, and approval as a kit car, though.

                            All I know is that when I looked into it years ago, I discovered it was just too complicated/expensive to have it done. I was going to buy a guys Carver in Europe because he was selling it relatively cheap.
                            That's how the Tango EV Commuter Car was/is able to be licensed. It's sold as a kit car. Even though electric and likely one of the safest cars on the planet.
                            Last edited by rickb; 01-14-2017, 12:02 PM.

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                            • #29
                              FTR re re resurrected?
                              "Eppur si muove"


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