BRP CanAm Spyder

[Derwin]

Take a look at this new "vehicle" that is already on the roads. It is called the SPYDER, and is already being delivered to buyers. I went to a showing in Wisconsin last month, and it was simply incredible. They only cost $15,000! You can put $1,000 down to reserve yours and have it delivered around April. I was so close to reserving one of these, but I held off. I think I may just take the leap! What do you think?

The website is: www.spyder.brp.com (http://www.spyder.brp.com) a great video on YouTube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSKhIjNDSTQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSKhIjNDSTQ)

I may just buy this while I am waiting for the V1 to be released. :D

Derwin

[AZEqualizer]

I was in beta testing on this one... it is like a snowmobile on the road... which is not a bad thing. The problem is that it gets around 35MPG.... If they overcame the MPG it would be good for people that don't have MC skills or need a trike... much better than a trike. If only the MPG thing didn't stink so bad.

[Hardtime11]

1. It does not tilt unless you put it up on two wheels.
2. You will get wet. ;)
3. To me it looks like one is riding an ATV of sorts.

[Mark Tomlinson]

Nah.

I want an enclosed vehicle that my wife and I can take Sunday drives in. I want a commuter car that won't kill me at the gas pump. I want a vehicle that doesn't require special clothes.

[rogwild]

Well, if you want to go 120mph, I guess the Spyder is the way to go. Just be careful taking curves, with that heavy cycle, and no 'tilting', your 'body lean' will do very little to stop a High Side flip. If you want a greener and more 'efficient' commuter (and don't mind taking 'rain gear'); check out:
http://tinyurl.com/277fz8
If Piaggio would put a folding top on their (hopefully soon to be produced hybrid [140+mpg]), they would have a nice 'city commuter' for the non-bikers.

[AZEqualizer]

The spyder is computer controlled to eliminate the flip.... and can take some pretty high maneuvers without loosing control

[esuorc2]

I got one of those covered scooters. I trailer it behind my Motorhome
Check it out at www.cccgis.com/scooter.htm
there is also a link on there to the motorhome that I restored to pull it with

[rogwild]

I got one of those covered scooters. I trailer it behind my Motorhome
Check it out at www.cccgis.com/scooter.htm (http://www.cccgis.com/scooter.htm)
there is also a link on there to the motorhome that I restored to pull it with
Hey, esuorc2, since you are into website design and consulting, perhaps you can lend a hand here.

Yep, a 'Tank' type scooter with Piaggio front wheels and an electric/hybrid drive getting 140 mpg would be cool; not quite 'ipod cool' like the V-1, but a cool short range commuter anyway.

[Hardtime11]

1. It does not tilt unless you put it up on two wheels.
2. You will get wet. ;)
3. To me it looks like one is riding an ATV of sorts.


I just got back from taking a Can-Am Spyder for a ride around town and a short blast down the highway. It is a very nice motorcycle. I say that because you are siting and actually straddling the engine and such as you would on a motorcycle. The controls and gauges are all pretty much motorcyle/atv. It does handle very nicely though. You can also assist it turns a little bit with body lean much like a motorcycle. You can not take a sharp turn as fast as laying a regular motorcycle around a corner curb but it is fairly quick. The average auto driver would be pressed to stay with it on sharp turns if the Spyder was driven by an experienced rider.

It seems to be a little more stable or smoother on the straight-aways and I like not having to put my feet down at a stop.
It is indeed an eye-catcher and sounds pretty good. Because of the limited unit runs this first year there is presently a waiting list until at least next spring at most dealerships (at least central Florida).

I cannot get one becasue I have the wife and she calls it a motorcycle and I already got her sold on the Venture because of the seating and enclosed passenger compartment with HVAC.

It is a very nice vehicle though and people are jumping all over it to get one before they even come in.

[rogwild]

Saw my first Yellow Spyder today going the other way with a 'pack of motorcycles'. From a distance, I at first thought it had a side-car, but figured it out as it got closer. At almost 60" wide it should be almost 20" (50%) wider than a V-1 (which tilts AND keeps you dry), but it did look like a load of fun for about $15k. I just hope the V-1 with a sliding or removable sun roof will give you that 'wind in the hair' feeling of a bike. (helmets not required in Florida for the 'hard-headed')

[Derwin]

rog,

I just think the Spyder is really cool. Like I said earlier, I have always wanted to ride a motorcycle, but the danger factor has kept me from it, and I thought the normal trikes were not for me. This reverse trike is simply awesome, and takes the danger factor down to a minimum.

I in no way am comparing this Bike to the V1. They are in different catagories all together. I hope people do not compare everything to the V1 in regards to posting in this forum. This forum is for bringing up any type of vehicle that you think is cool or unique.....totally independent of the V1.

We all know that the V1 is in its own catagory all by itself. In my opinion NOTHING can compare with the V1. It will be an entirely new way to experience driving. If it matches all of the hype, it will be one of the most entertaining vehicles that have ever been manufactured.

Anyway, the Spyder is a nice open air way to experience the road. I am still seriously condering putting one on order. Any feedback from those who have tested this is very welcome. Thanks.

Derwin

[Hardtime11]

I have actually traded vehicles with other trikes before and found that I do like the two-wheels up front instead of in the rear. That is at least in the Spyder's case with it's suspension which is pretty forgiving and smooth. With the 1 wheel front and two rear standard trike there is a very good tendency for a tilt over in turns while on power. The Spyder is the reverse of this and has less tendency for the weight tilt as it has already displaced most of the weight for turns on the front two wheels in a turn and the suspension does let you get a little body tilt (not much) in a sharp power out turn.

[AZEqualizer]

Derwin, I got to Beta test the Spyder and rode it pretty hard. For someone that wants the extra stability that it gives it is a great bike. I would go for the optional exhaust system as the standard one sounds like a lawnmower. It is fun to drive easy to pick up the handling characteristics. You have to go way way way out of your way to out drive it. I would also upgrade it with the touring windshield and the bar risers and backrest. But that is for my comfort and might not make sense for other riders depending on how tall you are.
My only complaint was the gas mileage at 35. After all it weighs less than a FourTwo and gets worse gas mileage.. there is something wrong with that.

I am also interested to see what Harley has up their sleeve. They have some patents they just put in for and have rumored to be building a tadpole (three wheeler with two up front) that tilts. Maybe they can get the mileage thing right and cut down the wgt a little

[Derwin]

AZ,

Wow! Harley is coming up with something like the Spyder??? Now you have me concerned. I would much rather wait to see what Harley has, than to go and buy the Spyder. Is it something they are coming out with soon? Man, you can't do this to me! I was all set to seriously consider the purchase of the Spyder, and now you tell me about this. NUTS!

Please find out more about this, and get back with me, or post it here. I am very interested, and I will hold off on the $1,000 down payment for the Spyder until I hear from you. Thanks.

Derwin

[AZEqualizer]

Gizmag had this article on the Harley tadpole (which was one of the more complete articles)

June 16, 2007 We've always been excited about the prospects for three wheeled conveyances (http://www.gizmag.com/tag/three+wheel/). Way back in September 2006, (which seems like ancient history in internet years), Lehman Trikes (http://www.lehmantrikes.com/) and Harley-Davidson (http://www.harley-davidson.com/) announced that they had entered into an agreement for the development of three-wheeled machines based on Harley “motorcycle product” and sold as Harley-Davidson branded vehicles through authorized Harley-Davidson dealers. Given that Lehman has been making a range of turnkey Harley trikes (http://www.lehmantrikes.com/harley-davidson-models.asp), conversion kits and accessories for 20 years, with two wheels at the back and a motorcycle front-end, the announcement didn’t get a lot of attention. A recent patent filing by Harley makes the whole story suddenly much more exciting. It appears that Harley isn’t far from releasing a stunning new “carving” model based on similar existing machines as the Piaggio MP3 (http://www.gizmag.com/go/5644/), Electric Vectrix (http://www.gizmag.com/go/6627/), Brudelli Leanster (http://www.gizmag.com/go/6440/) and Mercedes-Benz F 300 Life-Jet (http://www.gizmag.com/go/3628/) and previously published concepts such as Heikki Naulapaa’s Aprilia Magnet (http://www.gizmag.com/go/3629/), Dimitrios Scoutas' Skipee (http://www.gizmag.com/go/1477/) and Tommy Forsgren’s Hermes (http://www.gizmag.com/go/1596/) – three wheeled vehicles with the power-to-weight ratio of an elite sports car and the cornering dynamics of a motorcycle.
Though the companies have not announced the timing of the product introduction, the accompanying drawings from Harley’s patent application show a machine certain to broaden Harley’s market into citizen territory without alienating its enthusiast and one percenter clientele.
Perhaps with this new platform, we’ll get to see Erik Buell work with the V-ROD motor at last and indeed, what a sporting carver might do when focused on sporting endeavours.

Photo Gallery (http://www.gizmag.com/go/7440/gallery/)

http://hubpages.com/u/78016_f260.jpg
http://hubpages.com/u/78017_f260.jpg

Patent Application (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=5&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=%22Harley+Davidson%22&OS=)

The only rumors around about possible release dates that I heard was summer of 2008, but these are unconfirmed.

[rogwild]

Nice engineering drawings on the HD; can't wait to see something (with similar detail) on the V-1. I would think that they would need something like this, BEFORE they could begin constructing the prototypes. SO MUCH to DO yet.:(

[Derwin]

Wow! I went and checked out the Piaggio MP3 website. This thing really looks awesome. I think I would rather have this than the Spyder.

Does anybody own the MP3? Have any of you riden this bike? If so, please post your experiences here. I am very anxious to hear about this.

I will be contacting my local dealer in regards to the MP3. If the price is as advertised, and it is a safe ride, I may just get this. But if any of you have personal experience with this, please let me know. Thanks.

Derwin

[rogwild]

Well the Piaggio MP3 will not do 120mph (top is only 77mph for the 250cc), but for around town and short trips it should be fine. Gas mileage is about 54mpg (23km/l) for the 250cc and 58mph (25km/l) for the 125cc;
http://tinyurl.com/gvxz8
but the hybrid version (release date unknown) should boost it up to 140mpg.
http://tinyurl.com/yug8fj
I haven't personally ridden one (but found a dealer 25 miles away, need to see if they have a MP3 demo for a test ride), but just remember this is a very nice 'scooter' and not a 'sport bike'. I would still like to see it have a 'folding roof' like the scooter pictured earlier, to help protect in some of our frequent Florida showers. But the 2 front tires and the 3 disc brakes, make it an interesting vehicle.

[AZEqualizer]

Heh ... I got broad shoulders... so I can take blame or fame.:cool:

[Hardtime11]

I think the idea of a vehicle being to achieve and maintain a high speed leads to the confidence in that vehicles ability to perform when needed such as a highway passing maneuver. Also it leads to the idea that when you get on a highway with a vehicle that has a top speed of 77mph on a highway with a posted limit of 70mph and everyone is doing 75-80 that you can move with the flow of traffic or the fact that when the wind is blowing a good, strong headwind that you will not be the one being blown down to about 55-60mph because your vehicle does not have any more guts.

I have driven trucks with mechanical governors on them and been lucky to squeeze the speed out of it as to not cause much of a rolling obstruction. That was until the wind kicked in and I lost even more than that.

The venture is meant to be an everyday driver it should be able to fill the slot of an everyday driver and not just that of a city commuter.

My parents just got in yesterday for a weeks visit and the comment was made that they did 80-85mph all the way here and were still getting passed by a lot of vehicles.

Yes I would like the ability and knowledge that my vehicle is capable of more in the event that it may be needed.

[Derwin]

Fella's.....I have an OPEN QUESTION for all club members. If you were inclined to purchase either the Spyder or the MP3, which would you rather have? Please give me your specific reasons. Let me tell you that the Spyder is $15,000 and the MP3 is $6,999.

Taking everything into consideration, please let me know your thoughts. Don't be afraid to "tell it like it is", or at least YOUR view of "like it is". I want ALL opinions.

I just called the local dealer for the MP3, and they have them in stock now. I am really chomping at the bit to buy it, but I just don't know if I would rather have the Spyder!

So, please let loose and give me your opinion on this matter. I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

Derwin

[AZEqualizer]

My opinion would depend on your intended use.

[Derwin]

AZ, Ok. I forgot to mention the all important "application"! Well, I just intend on running around town. I would never take it on long trips, I don't think. I know the Spyder might be more suited for long trips, but I don't think I would ever use it for that. But this should not disqualify it, either.

There are a lot of factors involved, including the "FUN FACTOR", and how you "feel" on the bike.....the impressions you make riding it, etc., etc. These are things that can't really be quantified, but are a real factor none the less.

But, taking in ALL of the factors about each bike....the price, the capabilities, the fun factor, the "feelings", etc......everything involved in owning either one. Take all these factors into consideration, and then give me your opinions.

[RAN]

Derwin, it depends on where you intend to ride it. If the MP3 (love that name lol) has a top speed of 77mph, it probably won't be comfortable pushing it anywhere near that speed. You may find that it's not comfortable at anything over say 50-55mph. By comfortable, I mean that the engine/gearing may be such that it feels strained going any faster. I had a Yamaha 750 Virago, which was a great bike for the city. Once I took it to Laughlin NV. Out here, if the speed limit says 65, that means 75.... or faster. Even though I've had that bike up to 85-90mph, it was not fun trying to cruise at 70-75mph. That bike really needed a 6th highway gear, and it didn't have it. The engine felt strained, there was vibration... it sure wasn't a "sweet spot" for cruising.

On another front, I haven't read closely on either of these 2 machines, but if they have carburators (tried 6 spellings and none look right lol), you have to be picky about the gas you put in them. I had 3 motorcycles out here, and I had problems with dirt getting in the carbs on every one of them until someone told me to run Texaco gas. Once I did, I had no more problems. I heard that Union 76 gas was good to use as well. Of course, now you can't get Texaco out here at all, and I'm not sure whether the other is available anymore either. Something to be aware of.

Can someone explain to me again how the heck Carver can sell that thing for $40,000?????? I'm all for a fun ride, but sheeeeeeeeeesh! How is it they haven't gone into mass production yet and brought the price down to say more like $20,000? They're talking about expanding into the US and Canada, and they're talking a price closer to $50,000 (and if they're that much in the US, those poor Canadian bastards will be paying $65,000 for one). The world is truly mad http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x139/MahBoff/crazy.gif!

Rick

[Derwin]

RAN,

Well, I just intend on beating around the town with it. I would probably NEVER go over 55mph with the thing. I just need input on which you guys think is the "better" ride. If you were in my shoes (I wouldn't wish this on anybody!), which one would you get? Or, if you know of another vehicle that is on the market now, please post it. Thanks.

Derwin

[rogwild]

For 'utility' around town, my choice would be the MP3; better gas mileage, more comfortable riding position, but still the 'fun' factor of leaning into the turns of a motorcycle.
If you want to be NOTICED around town, than the radical looks and SOUND of the Spyder would put it on top. The power and the more 'laid out' riding position of the Spyder would make it better for trips (except for the gas mileage).
Both would require 'rain gear' or selective riding to remain dry.
Considering the price, you could have 2 MP3's for the price of a Spyder.
Again, my personal choice would be the 'future hybrid' (140mpg) MP3, with some type of weather protection, for an 'around town' fun vehicle (until the V-1 hits the roads).

[Derwin]

rog,

There is a new MP3 that gets 140mpg? Tell me more about this! I never heard of this. I think the MP3 will be a nice "filler" while waiting for the V1. I need something to do while waiting!

[MikeB]

I had a 250cc scooter for about 3 years, the Honda Reflex. Given my experience with it, I'd say the MP3 would be an excellent around-town rider.

I think there will be larger models, like 400cc or 600cc versions, that would be more than capable of safe interstate highway travel. (I used my 250 on the Atlanta interstates, but it really wasn't quite fast enough to be safe).

I've also heard that the MP3 design is coming in both hybrid and all-electric models, keep an eye on Vectrix for upcoming models.

While I'd much rather have a V1, if the wait starts becoming too long then I'll probably look at getting a pure electric maxi-scooter (like the Vectrix) for around-town transportation, and a diesel car for the highway.

ETA:
400cc MP3 (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/11/20/piaggio-mp3-400-3-wheel-scooter/)
Hybrid MP3 (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/08/19/more-on-piaggios-hybrid-scooters-with-pictures/)

[Hardtime11]

For 'utility' around town, my choice would be the MP3; better gas mileage, more comfortable riding position, but still the 'fun' factor of leaning into the turns of a motorcycle.
. . . . . . . .
Considering the price, you could have 2 MP3's for the price of a Spyder.
Again, my personal choice would be the 'future hybrid' (140mpg) MP3, with some type of weather protection, for an 'around town' fun vehicle (until the V-1 hits the roads).

That is what I would think especially with the more comfortable and half the price with 3-4 times the economy.

Just to putt around time with a little pizazz the MP3 has my vote. Size alone the MP3 would probably be easier to store along with a car in a garage or carport or just a shed. The Spyder definitely takes some space for this. The Spyder takes more space than the Venture will.

[AZEqualizer]

Can someone explain to me again how the heck Carver can sell that thing for $40,000?????? I'm all for a fun ride, but sheeeeeeeeeesh! How is it they haven't gone into mass production yet and brought the price down to say more like $20,000? They're talking about expanding into the US and Canada, and they're talking a price closer to $50,000 (and if they're that much in the US, those poor Canadian bastards will be paying $65,000 for one). The world is truly mad http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x139/MahBoff/crazy.gif!

Rick
Carver has stated that they plan on continuing to build and sell the Carver as a hand built machine ala Ferrari. And they sell everyone they build so no incentive to do other than hand build them

Derwin I have to compose some thoughts before I give my input... It is harder to evaluate when I have never driven a MP3 ... but I am good at research.:)

[rogwild]

rog,

There is a new MP3 that gets 140mpg? Tell me more about this! I never heard of this. I think the MP3 will be a nice "filler" while waiting for the V1. I need something to do while waiting!

Just reread my post #18 (second link) for the information.

[Derwin]

Well, I started this thread being about the Spyder reverse trike, and I got a lot of input from a lot of people regarding the Spyder and the MP3. First, thanks to all who offered advice, information, and suggestions. I really appreciated all your help.

Second, and most important, I have come to a decision on what I am going to get. I was excited about the Spyder until the MP3 was shown to me. I immediately liked this scooter. It is unique and really seems like a great little ride. I went as far as visiting the local shop and looking at it. I was all set to purchase it, but came back home and looked over EVERYTHING for a final time.

I came to the conclusion that the Spyder wins in most all catagories that I found important. The "Fun Factor", the "feelings", the Power, the Stability, and yes, the "WOW!" of this vehicle, and so many other aspects that the MP3 just did not come close matching. The mpg is the only thing that upsets me a little, but I am willing to overlook that negative point. I also just found out from the shop in Wisconsin that I can order an AUTOMATIC for about $1,000 more. This was the thing that clinched it for me!

So, after taking everything into consideration, I have decided to order the new 2009 Automatic Spyder. Pat Morgan from the shop told me that I am guaranteed to receive my Spyder by September 2008, and most likely as soon as August.

I am so pumped that I can hardly contain myself! Sure, it does not "lean", and the gas mileage is not so great, but the "Fun Factor" is there......and I'm going with it. This will be my way of being occupied while waiting for the V1 to be released, which may be a while! Heck, I may even begin a Spyder Club of some kind! I know none of you would be interested, but I just had to mention it.

Thanks again to everybody who provided input and helped in my decision making. You guys are the best!

:DDerwin:D

[Derwin]

I AM SO ANGRY I COULD SCREEEEEEM!

As many of you already know, I was getting the new Automatic BPR Spyder. Well, I went today to put $1,000 down payment on the thing, and the guy told me the price WENT UP $1,000 since I spoke with him last week! THIS IS INSANE. It is actually sick. Dealerships are RAPING customers because they know the popularity of this product.

Well, needless to say, I DID NOT order the Spyder. I am upset about this, but what can a person do? I am now going to start checking other dealerships about pricing. Just thought I would keep you all updated on the personal situation.

Derwin

[Miracleman89]

Derwin sorry to hear what happened. I know what you mean I use to sell cars =n: and I had to quit because I am not good at lying to nice people! Good luck in your quest! I hope you find a dealership that is at least somewhat honest.

[rogwild]

Wow! I went and checked out the Piaggio MP3 website. This thing really looks awesome. I think I would rather have this than the Spyder.
..... Thanks.

Derwin

The MP3 now comes out in a 500cc version:
http://tinyurl.com/28crnd

There is also more info on the 170mpg hybrid at:
http://tinyurl.com/2gspb3

[MikeB]

I'm currently riding a Honda Silverwing, which is a 600cc maxi-scooter. I won't move down to anything smaller than a 400cc engine, given the average freeway speeds around here, but the 500cc Gilera Fuoco looks awfully tempting.

I've got a tiny little Unigo trailer for weekend trips, I wonder how well it would pull behind the Fuoco?

Derwin, you need to get out and test-ride the Fuoco, I'm betting you'll love it.

[Derwin]

MikeB,

Thanks for the information. I actually did look at the Fuoco 500 online, but it is not made in America or selling in America. I guess Piaggio is going to be bringing this bike into America, according to this article:

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/09/19/piaggio-will-bring-gilera-fuoco-500-to-america-as-the-mp3-500-an/

I still really like the CanAm Spyder after considering all things. But the recent problems I have been having with dealerships raising prices, it makes me hesitate. Now I think it would cost a little under $20,000 (including taxes, etc.) to get the Spyder. This is getting a little bit too high for my taste. I like it, but I just don't think it is worth the same price I can get the Venture Vehicle car.

So, I don't really know what I am going to do at this point. After seeing your post, I may just take another look at Piaggio. And if they DO have the 500cc version, this would probably pull me in that direction.

Derwin

[Derwin]

NEW INFORMATION!

I finally settled all of the problems that I have been having with the Spyder dealerships. The dealership in Benton Harbor, Michigan gave me a deal for this at the original msrp, and I have now placed an order, and put a $1,000 down payment on it. The people at this dealership, Lake Effect Powersports, seem to be really nice and honest.

I will soon be the proud owner of one of these incredible machines. I ordered the "SE5", which is the "automatic" model. You still have to shift gears, but they made it easier with a button on the stearing column.

Anyway, I am one excited puppy! They said I may have mine by June. This would be fantaaaaaaaaaastic! Thanks again for all your input.


Derwin

[AZEqualizer]

Cool ... In the mean time don't forget to take a motorcycle safety course and don't scrimp on the helmet and body armor.

BTW did you get the yellow one?

[Derwin]

Yep, I ordered the yellow model. I think it stands out a bit more. I am thankful that I live in one of the few states (Illinois) that does NOT require a helmet. I know many will think I am crazy, but I just don't like wearing a helmet on a clear summer day. It takes away the very reason for riding a bike......OPEN AIR! But if I get into an accident and split my head open, I am sure your gonna remind me about the helmet.

BTW- I am a very safe driver, and will not be riding on expressways. Mostly just around town.

Derwin

[AZEqualizer]

We in AZ aren't required to use a helmet either ( unless you are a minor) But I wear a top of the line Shoie full coverage every time I ride a motorcycle (which is most days of the week even when it is 115F+) and I have been driving street bikes since the 60's.... But it is after-all your organs. ... Just don't pull a Gary Busey!!!

[randi]

Yep! Poor Gary's got a metal plate on his head. But he's alive, lucky dog.

Don't buck the odds on this one, Derwin--really.

No one would say " ... told 'ya so," but just the same, listen to your budz--better safe than sorry!

[Derwin]

Yeah, your probably correct.

Thanks for your concern.

Derwin

[randi]

Hey, what happened to " ... I like Gary Busey even though he's weird ..."

I happen to agree--on both counts.

Love Gary; he's character! Even before his crack up and metal plate.

[Derwin]

I thought I would post my sales summary for the CanAm Spyder. I think you can tell I am REALLY excited about this!

Derwin

[jmeineck]

Derwin,

con grates on finding the deal you were looking for:-)

Yes I can understand why you don't want to ride with a helmet. I road for years around Portland, OR without wearing a helmet. I have to wear a helmet now because it is the law and I was very upset when that law passed. Take care to keep the rubber side down:-)
Jeff

[rogwild]

Derwin;
Just stopped by the local Polaris Jet-Ski place today, since they had a 'CanAm Spyder' on display. What a MEAN looking machine. Looks like fun to drive (even without the 'tilt').
It was in the low 50's today, overcast and wet; not the type of day I picture being out on an 'open' cycle. But the Vv, would have been PERFECT to run my few errands.

[Derwin]

rogwild,

Yeah, I am really excited about getting mine. I have the SE5 model on order, the Golden/Yellow color. I put a grand down on it, and the expected delivery date is around August/September of this year.

The Spyder, along with the V1 will be my "Fun-mobiles"!! I also need a vehicle to pull my 19ft boat.....I know neither of these vehicle will do that!

Derwin

[Derwin]

***I'm sooo excited, and I just can't hide it......I'm about to lose control and I think I like it!!***
;););););););)

Well, I just contacted the CanAm Spyder Team, and they told me that I will be receiving my Spyder SE5 by the end of MAY! The scheduled delivery was going to be around the end of September...the end of the riding season here in Chicago.

BUT NOW I'M GETTING IT IN MAY...THE BEGINNING OF SUMMER! A full 4-MONTHS earlier than expected. Man, I think I am going to EXPLODE with excitment!

I'll tell you what, this thing is really holding me over until Ian gets the V1 into production. I know......you guys probably don't care, but I just had to share my excitement. Please forgive me!

=y:=y:=y:
Derwin
:):):)

[Miracleman89]

See Derwin if you lived in AZ you could ride it year round!;)

[rogwild]

Here's another trike that 'tilts':

http://www.irs1000.it/index.htm

[rogwild]

Derwin;
Here is another 'old' article on the Spyder roll-out for historical purposes:
http://tinyurl.com/3gmp33
Says Jay Leno got # UNO.

[Derwin]

Yeah, I seen the program where the Frenchman handed the keys of Priemere Edition Number 1 to Jay Leno. Then they showed Leno at his garage getting on it, and then taking it out on the road for a ride. It was great!

As you know, I have on order the CanAm Spyder SE5. They say I can expect delivery of it around August or September, and some people are saying that it may even be sooner. All I can say is that I CAN'T WAIT! I am REALLY excited about finally getting it. I put my deposit down on it back in December, and it just seems like the wait if FOREVER! Anyway, I figure it will keep me busy until the V1 finally gets released.

Derwin

[Derwin]

Well, it looks like Corbin is entering the business of making accessories for the CanAm Spyder. The reason I am interested in this, as most of you know, I have had a Spyder on order since last December. Here are the things that they are creating....

Corbin Fairing for Spyder

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg205/dreamquestbiz/frontview.jpg
Up front the Corbin Fairing will feature a replaceable wind deflector system utilizing locally available Harley Davidson parts allowing the rider to quickly and easily change the look and function.

Corbin saddlebags for Spyder

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg205/dreamquestbiz/rearview.jpg
The Corbin saddlebags are well formed to the shape of the Spyder and closely follow the lines of this unique roadster.

A fair amount of storage space!

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg205/dreamquestbiz/sideview.jpg


If you don't know, Corbin is the same company coming out with the new "RAVEN" vehicle:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg205/dreamquestbiz/raven_thm.gif

These accessories make the Spyder look like the Batmobiles side-kick! When my Spyder SE5 comes in, I may just buy these extra's from Corbin. They look pretty good to me, but the price they charge may just be out of reach. We'll see.

Derwin

[Derwin]

Just another view of the Spyder with the Corbin Saddlebags:

http://www.flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=388&stc=1&d=1211293078

Man, I can't wait to get this thing! Should be only a couple LOOOOONG months more of waiting, but it will be worth it.

Derwin

[Hardtime11]

Probably will look pretty good when they are color coordinated. It will make it a step over instead of a swing over to get on the vehicle. But that is cool as storage will be greatly increased.=y:

[Derwin]

Please forgive me for these posts about the Spyder, but it's something that will be in my driveway within the next few months, and I am getting more and more excited about it!

Corbin has just posted new photos of a few things they created for the Spyder. Please let me know what you think.

Corbin Fairing and new seats for the CanAm Spyder:

http://corbin.com/news/052208b.jpg

http://corbin.com/news/052208e.jpg

Corbin Saddlebags for the CanAm Spyder:

http://corbin.com/news/052308d.jpg

http://corbin.com/news/052308d.jpg

http://corbin.com/news/052308e.jpg

All in all, I think these additions to the Spyder are pretty cool. I'm not too sure about the saddlebags, though. It really makes the Spyder look "heavy" and weighed-down. The fairing REALLY changes the look of the Spyder also. Not sure about it, but I think it's worth looking into if it blocks the wind.

Anyway, thanks for putting up with this little indulgence of mine! =D

Derwin

[Derwin]

As you all know, I have had this CanAm Spyder on order since last December. This has been a very LONG wait, and I have looked forward to getting this more than most anything else in my life. Those of you who have been following this forum probably know the excitement that this has stirred up within me over this past year, and how I use every opportunity to talk about it.

As most of you also know, I got involved in a new business..... BMC. As a result of some posts in this forum, I found out about this little 3-wheeled vehicle manufactured in China. Rogwild, along with several other members, were also excited and posted that they wanted to order one from me if/when I import them.

Well, I went ahead and imported a few of these vehicles from China using the money that I had put aside for my CanAm Spyder. I did this based on the overwhelming excitement shown by a few people in this club. There were those that stated they DEFINATELY wanted these vehicles, and would place orders with me. One person even went so far as to state that he wanted to order 2 UNITS, one for him and one for his wife. To date, the ONLY person to actually order a VogueOne vehicle from me is Rogwild. He is the ONLY person to stand true to his word.

Because of this, I am now in trouble. The purchase of my CanAm Spyder is now in jeopardy because I went out and used the money to import these vehicles. I have until September 30th to come up with the funds to fulfill my order for the Spyder. If I do NOT, than I will lose the Spyder, along with the $1,000 deposit that I made on it.

This has really, really caused me a lot of heart-ache over the past several weeks. I made an incredible mistake here, and I don't know how I can recover. I screwed-up by using this money for this new business. I should never have done this based on a few posts people made in this forum. This was incredibly stupid, and now I am paying for my mistake.

The only thing that can save me is by people purchasing these vehicles from me. If this does not happen, than I am toast. So, if ANYBODY can help me out, I would REALLY appreciate it more than you would ever know. Even if you don't really "need" this little vehicle, maybe you can buy one as a "collectors item" or as something you can give as a gift to somebody that you know.

I realize that I am grasping at straws by posting this. And I also realize that I may be overstepping my bounds by asking you to help me out of this dilemma that I am in. But my back is really against the wall, and I had to at least TRY to do something.

If you would like to help me out, please email me at dbeushausen@gmail.com or call me at 815-315-0321

Thanks for all your support. And thank you for reading this post.

Derwin

[rogwild]

Hey Derwin; how about just getting a 'vehicle loan' (like most other people do, when they don't have the 'cash on hand'. I think the VogueOne scooter is the ONLY new vehicle in my life that I didn't 'finance'. It may cost a bit in finance fees, but will get you the "CanAm Spyder", and save you all the 'grasping at straws'.

[RAN]

Derwin I am sorry that you had to learn this lesson the hard way, but those are usually the ones that stay learned the longest.

As I said in another thread, it's depressing how little peoples' words are worth these days, and how surprised they are when they have no credibility after breaking them.

This is why I have little respect for Ian. If he can't keep his word on something as simple as writing an update, how can I believe anything else he says or promises??

I saw you had lowered the price on the Vogues you have left. Hopefully, while it's still summer, you'll be able to sell the remainder of them locally in time. I'll cross my fingers for ya!

[AZEqualizer]

Did you try to Ebay the scooters? And have you tried www.cycletrader.com ?

BTW I have long used Corbin as a source for all my motorcycle seats.... much better than any other seats that I have tried. I even have a set of motorcycle boots that they made (sadly they no longer make boots)

[Derwin]

Hey Derwin; how about just getting a 'vehicle loan' ...

Rog, I would definately do this IF I could. I have actually tried several places in an attempt to get this done, but none would take it on. I guess they don't think I am credit worthy since I have too much going already. This is the biggest reason that I was saving CASH for the Spyder purchase.


it's depressing how little peoples' words are worth these days, and how surprised they are when they have no credibility after breaking them.

Yep, it's really depressing. But I should have known better. People can post anything on a forum. Heck, we really don't know WHO it is we are talking to online, and for me to commit my money based on things that people posted in this club forum was incredibly stupid, and something that I never should have done. I'm 42 years old, and you would think that I would know better. But I'm one of those guys that likes to take people at their word, even when I don't know who it is I'm talking to. Anyway, it was my mistake. I'm just glad that at least Rogwild was/is a man of integrity and honor, and he followed-through with his order. Thanks rog!

AZE... I tried ebay, but nothing would sell. I even offered them at a way lower price than I should, just in an attempt to get my money back. But it was a no-go.

Derwin

[Miracleman89]

Wait are you saying you are still sitting on some of those Vogue one scooters??? Oh man, I am so sorry!

[Derwin]

Wait are you saying you are still sitting on some of those Vogue one scooters??? Oh man, I am so sorry!

Not as sorry as ME, MM89. I went and invested based on the word of other people, and I got burned..... at least up to this point. But I still have about a month or so to sell these units and get the money for the Spyder. If I don't, than I don't. Like I said, it's my fault. Never again.

Derwin

[Mike kZ]

"One person even went so far as to state that he wanted to order 2 UNITS, one for him and one for his wife. "

I guess this was directed to me, huh Derwin? Well I fully intended to buy at least one bike, because you told me you only had one left this shipment. The rest were sold to local friends. Didn't they buy them? The second bike would maybe ordered if you got a second shipment. Well after you said shipping would go sky high, and I calculated what 2 bikes, shipping, insurance, licenses, helmets, etc.. would cost, I determined that it would cost to much for me, and decided to save the money for a V-1. So at the time, I was down for just one bike, and you said you had many locals interested, so I gave up my spot. I don't appreciate feeling like I'm being singled out. I'm sorry I couldn't afford it, but that's the way it turned out.
I'm hoping you can sell the rest.

Mike

[Derwin]

I guess this was directed to me, huh Derwin? I don't appreciate feeling like I'm being singled out. I'm sorry I couldn't afford it, but that's the way it turned out.


Mike

Mike,

If you noticed, I never mentioned any names. There are also many others who backed out when it came time to put up the money, and I said that in the previous posts. I was brought up to believe that a mans word is his "bond", and that we can trust each other based on that. Things do indeed "change", and people have second thoughts when it comes to actually PAYING for what they want. I blame MYSELF for not understanding this BEFORE I went and invested all of my money. I made it VERY clear that I blame MYSELF for this, and not anybody else. All I was doing was stating what had transpired. I also stated that I would never allow this to happen again.

Rogwild told me that he wanted one. I then verified it with him. He then sent the payment for it. Rogwild is a man of integrity. He now has in his possession a nice silver VogueOne, and I hope he enjoys it for many years to come.

Derwin

[Hardtime11]

Derwin, Just to let you know, one of the towns near me has a motorcycle gathering (between 350-1000 bikes) downtown quite frequently on Saturdays. I made the mistake of going through the downtown traffic fiasco this past Saturday. There were no less than 18-20 Spyders there. I saw some where the wife was driving them behind their husband on his two-wheeler but I did see a few teams driving around together. They were of all colors and some were even nicely custom painted. They looked and sounded good. I know in traffic they enjoyed the fact that they could just keep sitting instead of having to balance the bike when it came to a stop in bad bumper to bumper traffic.

I remember when I drove one of the first (demo) ones. It rode pretty good and very stable. Now it is not a two-wheeler or a VentureOne/CarverOne that can dive low into a corner but it was a very nice open air ride. I hope that you are still able to get one as you desire.

[Derwin]

Hardtime,

Very nice to hear! I know of many people that have had CUSTOM paint jobs done to their Spyders, since the company only produces 3 colors at this time.... Silver, Yellow, and Red.



Derwin

[Hardtime11]

There were some Blue, Brown and two in particular had murals painted on theirs. I did not have a camera with me but maybe next time. My Cell phone camera is VGA only and it does not take good detail pics.

[jsuggs]

First, I have a Spyder and I love it. But just like I am sure will happen when/if you drive around in a VV you are an instant celebrity. People are always talking to you, taking your (ok, the Spyders) picture and if you play your cards right you'll get free stuff (food, etc).

I've had it for over a month, have done 1,500+ miles on it including a 4 hour trip from Nashville to Atlanta and back. So far, worth every single penny. It is my daily driver and now that I have good rain gear my BMW convertible is for sale...but to be fair I am going to get something enclosed "just in case."

While I do think that this competes on some levels with the VV, as they are both unique sporty vehicles (although the Spyder would dominate it, performance wise though not mpg wise). I would very much consider making this my "enclosed vehicle" and own both (if the bank account allows). We would still have my wife's tahoe for when we need the ability to tow/haul people.

Granted I've never driven a V1 (has anyone?), if I could only have one vehicle, then it would definitely be a hard decision. I had a motorcycle for a while, but this has brought me back to open-air riding and frankly, I'm loving it. Obviously, I haven't had it during winter and that may sway the decision, but it would still be a tough decision.

Piaggio vs Spyder: don't think you'd have to guess from my review above, but its like comparing a Yugo to a Ferrari. One has awesome lines and commands attention and respect, the other laughs and pity...but then again I may be a little biased.


Hardtime,
since the company only produces 3 colors at this time.... Silver, Yellow, and Red.

FYI, BRP now offers a set of matte black panels. I'm considering getting them.

[jsuggs]

Hey Derwin, whatever happened? I read the first 3-4 pages before I made my last post. Sorry to hear and I guess my "laughs and pity: comment isn't helping you move the ones you have left. Anyway, before giving up I'd at least check around with credit unions as that is who has financed my last two vehicles (including the Spyder @ 4.9%)

I'm really surprised that it took you so long to get yours. I put mine on order the first of July and had it before the end of the month, or were you ordering a SE5 as that would explain the delay.

You don't have to give exact numbers, but how many do you have left and what are they going for?

[Derwin]

I ordered the Spyder SE5 back in December. I was told it would come in September of 2008....This month!

Derwin

[Derwin]

SANTA HAS A NEW RIDE, FELLAS, AND IT'S A SPYDER!

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[Mike kZ]

Shouldn't he be on a red one? sc:oo:t:e:r4

[Derwin]

Shouldn't he be on a red one? sc:oo:t:e:r4

Yeah, I know. They screwed that all up. It should have been Santa on a red Spyder, being flanked by his elves on 2 silver ones. Oh, well! du:n:n:o(

[Derwin]

Well, I just discovered a much cheaper version of the CanAm Spyder. A factory in China is making these, and they look pretty cool. Don't get me wrong, though.....they are NOT a Spyder, and you can tell by the quality. But, hey, for about 1/3 the price, not a bad machine!

Here are some pics and details...

Specifications:

250CC engine
Water cooled
CVT
Front and Rear disc brake
Front air shock absorber
100 miles/gallon, 120miles/hour

http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=779&stc=1&d=1229649162
http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=783&stc=1&d=1229649162
http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=778&stc=1&d=1229649162
http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=780&stc=1&d=1229649162
http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=781&stc=1&d=1229649162
http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=782&stc=1&d=1229649162

[Miracleman89]

how much are those???

[Derwin]

I'm going to be checking with the factory. But I heard that they run around $5,000 or $6,000....maybe a tiny bit more and maybe a bit less. That's a heck of a lot cheaper than the CanAm Spyder which costs $17,000!

[espresso_curve]

Now I think I can maybe convince the wife to let me get the CanAm Spyder knockoff at $5K or so. I might even be able to convince her that we can get 2, one for me and one for her. Great find Derwin, keep us posted.

Now lets just hope the the Persu Hybrid does not get "cloned" in China as fast (we all know it will - oh well).

[Derwin]

Well, I spoke with the company that makes that Spyder knock-off, and they said that the RETAIL price will be $4500. That's actually not too bad for this bike. There not being released until January or February, though. But I intend on buying one just to see how it rides.

Heck, I may even become a dealer if its any good!

Derwin

[westonlgray]

The specs seem a little out of whack to me. 250cc and 120 mph? I can believe the 100 mpg at 50-60 mph which I would guess would be 85% of the top speed.

The design does look pretty good. If it had a 600 cc Honda motorcycle engine in it, I would definitely bite. I could live with 50 mpg if it had any performance.

[Derwin]

The specs seem a little out of whack to me. 250cc and 120 mph? I can believe the 100 mpg at 50-60 mph which I would guess would be 85% of the top speed.

Yeah, your right about that. I don't really believe those specs either. But I can pick one up for around $3,000 since I have a dealers license. So it's not that much money to spend, and I can always turn around and sell it if I don't like it.

Anyway, I'll keep everybody updated on when/if I get it in the next month or two.

Derwin

[MikeB]

The specs seem a little out of whack to me. 250cc and 120 mph? I can believe the 100 mpg at 50-60 mph which I would guess would be 85% of the top speed.

The design does look pretty good. If it had a 600 cc Honda motorcycle engine in it, I would definitely bite. I could live with 50 mpg if it had any performance.

I had a 250cc Honda Reflex for about 3 years, excellent bike. Top speed was about 75mph, fuel consumption around 60mpg. On the other hand, a Ninja 250 also has a 250cc engine, and can go quite a bit faster.

The knock-off isn't likely to do much better than my Reflex, and I know for a fact that chinese importers often show seriously inflated specs.

[espresso_curve]

I am still interested. Less than $5K for a pretty cool looking bike. Yeah!! I will wait and see what Derwin thinks before I dive in and buy. I would like to test one out too. If I like it maybe I will see how hard it would be to distribute them in my area. Keep us in the know Derwin.

[Derwin]

I will wait and see what Derwin thinks before I dive in and buy. I would like to test one out too. If I like it maybe I will see how hard it would be to distribute them in my area. Keep us in the know Derwin.

I'll keep you updated. Like I said, these things are not going to be available for another month or so. The moment they are available, I'll be having one shipped to me.

Don't worry, I'll give you all the scoop on this thing....the speed, real gas mileage, and the general feel of it. I'll also take a few videos and post them. Heck, if you are in the Chicago area, I'll let you stop by and test ride mine when I get it.

Who knows....It may turn out to be a very nice little Spyder knock-off, or it could turn out to be garbage! We'll find out soon enough.

Derwin

[espresso_curve]

Well I am kinda far away from ChicagoLand. I live near Richmond VA but am trying to sell my house and move to Houston TX. I think I will own a Persu Hybrid before that happens. Stinking housing market. :mad:

Sorry about that. I digressed. I would definately like to hear your opinion once you have this knockoff for a few months and definately post some vids. Who knows maybe I can find someone here in VA that will let me test drive their CanAm Spyder to compare (I don't think that will happen). Anyway Thanks Derwin.

[longspeer]

Good find Derwin. I look forward to seeing how you like it.

[Miracleman89]

Hey Big D,
Thanks for the find and please do keep us informed on this! I need something that is capable of doing at least 75mph! I say 75 because I live in the mountains and if it can pull 75 on little rolling hills then it won't hold 65 on a mountain road!

[Derwin]

Well, I've been talking with a few of my contacts overseas, and I'm pretty excited about this new discovery that I made. It's a very nice reverse trike with a 250cc engine. It's not the one that we have been talking about here in the last few posts, though.

I am pretty sure that I will be importing a few of these babies, and then selling them for around $4,000 to $4,500 each.

Here are a couple pics, along with the stats....

http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=795&stc=1&d=1230862883

http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=796&stc=1&d=1230862883

Engine Type: single cylinder, Water-cooling,4-stroke Transmission: 4 gears with one reverse gear,manual cluth Ignition mode: CDI Compression propor 9.2:1 Power: 15.2KW/7,500rpm Max.torque: 18.6N.m/6,000rpm Displacement: 246ml Start mode: electric Tranmission mode: chain Min.ground clearance: 100mm Max.speed: >80km/h Power source: 12V,9AH Fuel tank capacity: 4L

Chassis Front wheels: 235/30-R12 Rear wheels: 235/30-R12 Break type(F/R): disc/disc Front hanging: double arm-swing Rear hanging: integral Dimensions product dimensions: 1950x1060x960mm carton dimensions: 1680x960x800mm wheelbase: 1380mm height of seats: 680mm dry weight: 167kg load capacity: 105KG climbing degree: >20

[MVRacing]

Max.speed: >80km/h

Looks ok, but did you notice the max speed is about 50 MPH?

[Derwin]

Looks ok, but did you notice the max speed is about 50 MPH?

Actually, 80km/h is equal to around 50mph. But I agree, that is not worthy of consideration.

But those numbers in the specs I posted are not accurate. I just copy and pasted what was on the sheet, but I was told that it was a misprint.

The reason that I am excited about this thing is because it has a 250cc engine in it, and it will get up to around 75 to 80 miles per hour. I verified this with the factory in China. That's still not lightning fast, but it's pretty darn good for the price in my opinion.

Derwin

[Derwin]

Well, I just got off the phone with the factory, and, unfortunately, I just found out that they to NOT have EPA or DOT approval. This vehicle is approved in Europe, but not the good old USA!

Oh, well.....My search continues!

Derwin

[Miracleman89]

Well I prefer the look of the first spyder knock off we were discussing! The other one looks like they just swaped a four wheeler into a three wheeler! I am really curious about the spyder knock off! Is there an issue with importing them? Is that the reason why you said the search continues? Please let me know!

[MikeB]

Ya know, I'm really not sure I see the attraction of these open trikes, especially the ones with a 250cc engine.

For nearly the same money, you can get a very-easy-to-drive Honda Reflex, which is going to have the full advantage of Honda reliability and engineering, similar performance, and it tilts! A real 2-wheel motorbike will perform much better on the curves, be easier to park and maneuver, and easier to maintain. Why carry around the weight and width of a 3rd wheel without any other advantages to justify it?

With an enclosed vehicle, I can see the point, since it's got to be larger and heavier than a normal 2-wheeler (and you can't exactly put your foot on the ground when stopped). But for an open cockpit, why bother with a trike?

[MikeB]

Btw, here's another non-tilting trike you guys might want to look at. It's at least semi-enclosed with an aerodynamic shell:

http://southwesttrikes.com/pics/stallionpics/images/DSCN0725.jpg

Stallion Trike (http://southwesttrikes.com/stallion.htm)

[Derwin]

Ya know, I'm really not sure I see the attraction of these open trikes, especially the ones with a 250cc engine.

Well, Mike, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I really LOVE the CanAm Spyder. I test drove it about a year ago, and have wanted one ever since. The main reason for not getting one is the price-tag of $17,000.

The reason for looking into these CanAm Spyder knock-offs is because they will cost only a few thousand dollars, as oppossed to $17,000.

Another reason for liking these open-air vehicles is simply because they are open-air vehicles. I really enjoy being in the OPEN and not boxed-in a car. The reason for wanting the reverse trike design if for simple stability. There are many people that simply love the stability that a reverse trike can offer. I know a guy who has riden bikes all his life, and still owns several. He decided to get the CanAm Spyder, and now has over 10,000 miles on the thing! He simply loves it, obviosly.

I guess it's just a matter of a persons preference. Some love these things, and others don't.

As for the Stallion that you posted, that thing is so overpriced that I am amazed they are still in business. I received marketing material from them about a year ago, and found out that they want over $30,000 for one. That's just way too much money for that thing in my opinion, and yet another reason why we are looking for these cheaper alternatives.

Derwin

[AZEqualizer]

http://www.bikez.com/pictures/kawasaki/2005/21502_0_2_3_concours_john%20beaudoin%20in%20perce% 20quebec%20canada.jpg

Here is a bike you can find easily a 2005 Kawasaki Concours. too bad they changed it in 2008 (the new ones are different and now run 12-13K) as it was sold new for 8-9k. You can find used ones with low mileage for around the 5K area.

This model was about 95 % compatible with all the prior Concours so there are a bunch of parts available for it. I have two (in RED), one is a parts bike. The bags can be removed and it is a shaft drive. So you have a tour bike and a sport bike. The last couple of model years also were available with abs. It gets great mileage, is fast and maneuverable. I change out the handle bar mounts on mine so that I could sit more upright.

[AZEqualizer]

The 595 pound V twin, tilts (two wheeled), Auto-transmission, ABS (with combined brakes)with 44MPG due to fuel injection and at $14,599 the DN-01 isn't exactly a bargain in the motorcycle world.... but that is still not out of place for a Modern styled layed back cruiser that does most of the hard work for you. Anyone can ride the DN-01, and that can be an advantage—for newbies and car crossovers ... All you have to do is lean, turn the throttle and put your foot down when you stop ;)
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/honda-dn-01-430-0109.jpg

Popular Mechanics has this article (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4301055.html?nav=RSS20) on a test ride for this easy rider.

[Derwin]

That's pretty cool, AZE, but it is not available to us yet. It goes on sale in Japan in March of 09. I do like the "twist and go" technology, though!

Derwin

[AZEqualizer]

That's pretty cool, AZE, but it is not available to us yet. It goes on sale in Japan in March of 09....
Derwin

I think the place you got your info on had a typo ... the DN-01 has been on sale in Japan since March of 08 and was on sale in Europe in the fall of 08. (heh there are even some used ones available in the UK)- I don't know the exact release date in the US since it isn't something I am interested in but I do know it is in Honda's (USA) catalog (http://powersports.honda.com/2009/DN01.aspx) as a 2009 bike starting at $14599 and you can request a price quote for all that is worth.

[Derwin]

I think the place you got your info on had a typo ... it is in Honda's (USA) catalog (http://powersports.honda.com/2009/DN01.aspx) as a 2009 bike starting at $14599 and you can request a price quote for all that is worth.

Wow! Very cool. It was either a typo, or I misread it! I think it is a pretty neat little bike, but the price tag is, again, way out of reach for a simple motorcycle in my opinion.

The CanAm Spyder runs that, and I would much rather own a Spyder for it's stability and ease of use. But, to tell the truth, I think that's overpriced as well.

Derwin

[Miracleman89]

I actual like this Honda myself!

http://powersports.honda.com/furyreveal/

[Derwin]

Well, as most of you know that have been following this club for the past couple years, I've been yearning to get the CanAm Spyder. Well, they just came out with the 2010 Touring model, and I think it is simply incredible.

One thing that I think we should all take note of, is the PRICE of this vehicle. The base model starts at over $20,000, and the fully loaded model is around $28,000. Now, mind you, this is for a motorcycle. I think it's getting to be very clear that when the Persu Hybrid finally comes to market, it will definitely be in the $25,000 plus price range. And my opinion is that they will not be able to keep them in inventory because people will be snapping them up so fast.

Anyway, here's some pics and a link to the website ....

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/

Here is a video of a test ride that Lamonster (owner of SpyderLovers.com) went on the other day. He was only one of a handful of people picked to actually take these units on a test run. By the way, he says in the video they went on a "5 mile" run, but it was actually a 5 HOUR run!

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Isn't this thing slick ....

http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=927&stc=1&d=1252157527

[Derwin]

Below is the Specification Sheet on the CanAm Spyder Roadster.

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[WarpedOne]

IIRC you once said you've ordered it and you're waiting for delivery.
What happened to that?

I'm considering the options of converting this thing into pure EV :)

[Derwin]

IIRC you once said you've ordered it and you're waiting for delivery. What happened to that?

I actually did have this on order. I put $1,000 down on the first model way back in December of 2007, with the expected delivery to be in August of 2008. But then I hit some hard times, and had to refuse when it finally came in.

But now with this touring edition, I am VERY happy that I was not able to follow through with the first order! I really LOVE this new edition.


I'm considering the options of converting this thing into pure EV :)

Now that's a cool idea!

Derwin

[Mike kZ]

Looks like a backwards regular touring trike

[Derwin]

Looks like a backwards regular touring trike


I think you should go out and test ride one. Incredible Feel. Incredible Power. And just all out FUN!


Derwin

[jeremymc7]

I looked into one of these myself but the wind in my face and the sun on my head just didn't do it for me. I need a closed in, air conditioned cabin where I can listen to my music.

Enjoy though. I can see the fun in it. Just not quite me.

[Derwin]

I looked into one of these myself but the wind in my face and the sun on my head just didn't do it for me. I need a closed in, air conditioned cabin where I can listen to my music.

Enjoy though. I can see the fun in it. Just not quite me.

I'm just the opposite, brother! I love the wind and the sun on my head and being in the open air.

But, hey, if you don't like motorcycles, then your not going to like this, obviously.

Derwin

[pondlife]

I really want to love the Can-Am Spyder but I can't help draw parallels with the Honda Goldwing - everytime I used to see one of these, whilst out riding my bike, I used to shout 'Get a Car!' ;)

...perhaps if the riding position was more 'in' the vehicle rather than 'on' it? Or just lower... oh I dunno...

[Derwin]

I really want to love the Can-Am Spyder but I can't help draw parallels with the Honda Goldwing - everytime I used to see one of these, whilst out riding my bike, I used to shout 'Get a Car!' ;)

...perhaps if the riding position was more 'in' the vehicle rather than 'on' it? Or just lower... oh I dunno...

Get a car? That's pretty funny! We have one person saying that he don't like it because he don't want "wind in his face and sun on his head", and then we have you who doesn't like it because you think it's like driving in a car?!? LOL! Go ride a goldwing and tell me that it's anything like a car. You can't, if your honest. Being in the open air feeling the power as you twist the throttle is a feeling that no car can give you, my friend.

The only difference between the Goldwing/Spyder and a regular motorcycle is that your motorcycle tilts. Other than that, your still out in the open air riding, just like a motorcycle.

But, as with most things, to each his own. We all like and enjoy different things for different reasons.

Derwin

[rickb]

The new Spyder Touring Edition looks like the ultimate, stable, fun trike and with the trailer great comfort and convenience on long road trips. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to adapt the Mystery Designs "Tiltster" Suspension System to the Spyder.

[Derwin]

Wouldn't it be cool to be able to adapt the Mystery Designs "Tiltster" Suspension System to the Spyder.

I think that, my friend, would be the ULTIMATE ride! 2thumb:up

Derwin

[carverlives]

I don't think the front wheels lean on turns. Maybe not at $15k. Do they?

[rickb]

I don't think the front wheels lean on turns. Maybe not at $15k. Do they?
The Spyder doesn't tilt but take a look at a cycle that does.
http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/about.html

[rickb]

I haven't looked at this tilting trike site for some time but the Red Honda 250 Rebel looks pretty cool. I can hardly wait to see the finished Harley Road King. I also wondered if Bob's engineering would adapt to the Spyder.

[Derwin]

The Spyder does NOT tilt in turns, but it is still one incredible vehicle in my opinion.

I've personally talked with the owner of Tilting Motor Works on the phone, and discussed this bike. This was over a year ago, but he offered to put a kit together for me for around 10 Grand, but that didn't include a donor bike.

As of now, there is NO three wheeled (reverse trike) bike on the market that tilts. Except, of course, the Piaggio MP3. You can find kits all around, but I have yet to find anything that is even close to a production vehicle. It just doesn't exist.

If anybody knows of a production reverse trike vehicle/bike on the market that tilts, please tell us!

Derwin