3D Model

[MikeL]

Hi Guys,

Some of you may remember that I mentioned I would put a 3D model of the Venture One together.

I have been making some progress on this with the help of a friend. The main body has been built and I'm now doing some tidy up work. The remaining items to be completed are wheels and interior.

I'm attaching a screen shot showing the work in progress. I will be uploading the completed 3D model for you guys to play around with. There are a number of ways this can be done but I think the easiest way to view / play with the model would be to download the Google SketchUp Viewer.

The Viewer is very simple to use and fun! This is the link to download, http://sketchup.google.com/gsu6/download.html

I expect to have the 3D model finished in a few days time and will post here.

MikeL

[Derwin]

Mike,

Fantastic work! I can't wait to see what the finished 3-D model looks like. Is that the "C" version that you are working on? Just wondering.

Derwin

[MikeL]

Hi Derwin,

I am building the model from the pictures, plans / elevations etc that were available on this site. I think its a bit of a mixture also I am taking some Artistic License on this one as we simply do do have enough data to make a totally accurate model ;)

Still it will be fun to play with. BTW, be sure to download and get familiar with the Google SketchUp Viewer, its not a big file / program and its free.

MikeL

[rogwild]

Nice job, MikeL, can't wait to 'play' with it. Already have Sketchup/Viewer and played with it a little.

[MarkH]

Outstanding Job! I can't wait to see it with skin on it! Keep up the good work.

[MikeL]

Hi Guys,

I've been working on the model this evening and have brought it to something that resembles the Venture One. I'm attaching a picture of the current status after 20 hours work. The model is around 700Kb, not too big! That is the trick with SketchUp, keeping the model size low so that it can be easily manipulated on screen.

While I have done a cobble job on the front wheel steering the rest is not too bad. No interior yet. I will do this when time permits I just can't manage any for time for it at present.

It looks to me that its not possible to load the model up here. If anyone wants me to email them the model just send me an email mike.lucey@gmail.com

Happy Flying!

MikeL

PS: Does anyone think this might merit an honorary upgrade in title. I have actually test driven the Carver One and am currently 'flying' a Gilera Fuoco, Badly I might add! :LOL:

[Derwin]

Fantastic job. It looks great. I think you just need to post a few more times, and you will be an "official" pilot of the club!

[MikeL]

Ohhhh! I don't wory about titles any more, too long in the tooth for that;)

In case anyone is a bit baffled by the Google SketchUp Viewer I'm attaching a Screen Shot showing what it looks like. Its very easy once you get the hand of it.

MikeL

[Derwin]

Yeah, I figured as much! We just came up with those club titles to make the experience here a little more fun. Thanks again for all your hard work and your great contributions to making this club THE place to be.

;)

Derwin

[CelticFlyer]

Nice work, Mike. You've got some real talent there. Thanks for sharing it with the rest of us. I'd like to see more of this sort of work, as you progress.

[MarkH]

How steep is the learning curve on that Sketchup. I'm thinking about giving it a try but don't have a lot of learning curve time.

My bulb is getting dimmer by the day... :confused:

[Mark Tomlinson]

Geeze! Where do you guys find the time? (Jealous, I think).

Nice work, Mike.

[MikeL]

How steep is the learning curve on that Sketchup. I'm thinking about giving it a try but don't have a lot of learning curve time.

My bulb is getting dimmer by the day... :confused:

Mark,

SketchUp has an easy learning curve. Give it a try but be sure to view all the tutorials first as they will save you a lot of time.

MikeL

[MarkH]

Does anyone think this might merit an honorary upgrade in title.

I would give it to you but I found out it takes thirty posts to be a co-pilot. Start posting updates to your model and you will have it in no time!

=y:

[MVRacing]

Hi MikeL,
Have down loaded the viewer. Can't thank you enough for taking the time to tackle this project.

[Derwin]

Nuts! I downloaded this program, but it caused my computer to freeze up! I have an old Gateway with a Pentium 4 Processor. It's been acting up lately, so I think I'm either gonna have to get a new computer (think of getting a Dell!), or just pull my hair out for awhile until I find out what is wrong.

Anyway, you have done a great job with this. Thanks again.

Derwin

[MikeL]

That's a pity Derwin. I suggest that you give serious consideration to buying a Mac. I swithched last year and have not looked back. I made the move when Apple decided to use the Intel Chip that allows Windows to be run under Boot Camp or Parellels. They are not that much more expensive that Dell machines ..... its the thought of change that is the biggest obsticle=D

Mike

PS: I have started doing the interior and should have it finished over the weekend. There is another way I can get you guys up and running with the model using different viewer .... more later.

[Derwin]

Mike,

Funny you should say that. I actually went to the Apple store and purchased a brand new imac with the 24" monitor. It was the best machine available as a "one peice" unit. I bought it back in December because I was tired of this pc, and everybody kept telling me that the Apple is the "cadillac" of computers. Also, I just LOVED those Apple commercials soooo much with pc and mac talking to each other!:)


Well, I kept it for about 2 months, and then I finally gave up on it and sold it on ebay. :eek:

You may not know it, but I work a lot with the Adobe suite of software.....Flash, Photoshop (a little), Fireworks, Dreamweaver, and many other programs. I tried working with them on my new mac, but I just could NOT get used to it. IT WAS SIMPLY ALIEN TO ME, and no matter what I did, I could not make myself feel comfortable using it. :cry:

I have used a pc all of my life. I know it inside and out. When I use the programs in my pc, I feel "at home" and so at ease. But the mac really, really was alien. I think you can tell that it still PAINS me to talk about this. I have wanted to get a mac for so long, and I really wanted to be a "mac" guy. But it is just not for me. I don't like the "feel" of the mouse. I don't like the "feel" of the keyboard. And, more importantly than anything else, I just did not like the "feel" of the operating system (Leopard). =n:

PLEASE HELP ME OUT......I'm begging you! I STILL want to be a "mac" guy, and make the conversion. How can a person like me feel comfortable with the mac? If you can help me resolve this problem, I will go and buy another mac in a heartbeat. You'll also win yourself a free club coffee mug! ;)

Derwin

[MikeL]

Derwin,

I can only tell you of my experience with the 'conversion'. Like you I had grown to learn many of the ins and outs of the PC. However I was finding that I was spending far too much time keeping the system up and running. I am a 'nut' for testing out new CAD and Graphics programs and more often than not I would dump them after exploration.

This action was a major cause of my grief with the WIN system. The Reg would get messed / locked up. Most of the time I was able to sort out the problems myself, other times I had to call in my local IT repair guy (@ €75 per hour, ouch). Since getting the Mac I have not given him any money .... I bet he misses me!

Don't get me wrong, Macs do crash occasionally, but on recovery, all is well most of the time. The new Time Machine feature in OSX 11.5 is fantastic as it allows you to go back in time (like Star Trek) and have a past time brought back.

When I 'switched' I did have a learning curve. It took some time to get used to the keyboard. I missed 'ctrl', 'alt', 'del', not that I needed it a lot! I also missed WIN Explorer and the Mac Mighty Mouse was not for me.

As I got used to the Mac OS I discovered some very handy applications that have been designed with 'switchers' in mind. The most useful one is RAGE Macintosh Explorer, there are many more, I can email them to you if you decide to have another go.

I also stuck with my Microsoft 3 button mouse. There is talks about Apple producing a mouse more along these lines.

Well, to get to your question! I suggest that you have a look at the new AirBook, its a very neat pice of kit ideal to carrying around and SO LIGHT!. If you were to get one of these you could treat it as a fun machine. You would find the transition easier if you did not put yourself under pressure. Just do your Surfing and emails on the Mac initially and maybe try some of the great Mac Software that is listed on the Apple site. Hold on to you existing WIN machine for MUST DO work. I still have a couple of WIN machines around but rarely use them any longer.

Also you can use WIN XP / VISTA on the Mac under Boot Camp or Parellels and it is possible to plug in a WIN keyboard to the iMAC, so I am told!

I hope this has been of some help to you.

Mike

[Derwin]

Mike,

I really appreciate your input. There are a lot of things that I could not get used to on the mac. One of them is the right-click with the mouse. Everytime you want to copy and paste something, you have to go to the top and use the button there. I really like the pc mouse where all you do is right-click to copy and paste. Can I set up a mac to work like this? This would be great if possible.

The other thing was indeed the browser. I just did not like safari or whatever it was. I don't know, I really want to work with the mac, but I just don't want to take the time and LEARN it! I guess that's the real problem......I'm too dang lazy!

Anyway, if you can send me anything that would help me make the switch, please do so. I would REALLY appreciate it. Thanks.

Derwin

[CelticFlyer]

I've been hooked on Macs for some time now. I'm in printing, and the industry standard is Mac-based. We all grumble when we get jobs prepared on the PC. They're clunky by comparison; they're nowhere near as intuitive as the Macs. I work on both, though. Now I've got a 20" iMac and a black MacBook. Both are comparably equipped and deliver the goods. Loaded with Adobe Creative Suite 3 and Microsoft Office too. Life is good.

The single-button mouse did take some getting used to, but once you learn the combination of keyboard/mouse clicks necessary to perform tasks, it becomes second nature. I've heard that the only reason they've stuck with the single mouse button is that "they've always had only one." Uh...okay. Enough with the silly sentimentalism! Give us better functionality!:IDEA:

[ziggy951]

Does anyone have a 3d model of the V1 in any digital form? I wanted to start playing around with some ideas but haven't the skill to do a ground up model creation on my own.


Z

[Jack Willard]

Yes. Can you work with an AutoCAD .dwg file? It is just the shell and the 3 tires, that were converted from IGES files provided by Ian Bruce. That's all he would give us. But at least it's something to play around with. I've added a small extension piece to the back and some canard/mirrors that we were talking about.

Here's what it looks like:



http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=718&stc=1&d=1219218695

[ziggy951]

HELL YEAH!!!

Shooting you a PM so you can email it to me..if you dont mind that is.



Z

[Derwin]

If you need the original files that Ian provided us, just let me know. Thanks.

Derwin

[Derwin]

Jack Willard,

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY FILES TO FELLOW MEMBERS WITHOUT PERMISSION.

The files were received from Ian, were only given to those that are involved in the VV r/c project, and who signed the confidentiality agreement.

Ziggy,

If you would like to be a part of that project, then please send me a pm and I will let you know how to proceed.

Derwin

[ziggy951]

o:o:p:s12



Done :)

[Jack Willard]

Understood Derwin.

Please understand that the 3D file really doesn't contain anything of any real usefulness in the proprietory sense. It is only a partial shell shape. It doesn't even have the rear side windows, which would have to be created.

To those of us that are in the engineering field, and have CAD capabilities, having anything that might stir our creative senses simply helps to hold our interest in the VentureOne vehicle. Which frankly is becoming more and more difficult, given that Ian Bruce is not providing any continuing information in that regard.

Ian is obviously intimately involved in the engineering development process. It would appear that VV either has no one serving as a Marketing Director, or if they do, they are not doing their job very well. That is clear. I have also been a Marketing Director.

In any case, I will not provide the 3D shell file to anyone without an okay from you first. But you might want to consider being rather generous with your permission. In my opinion it would be helping VV in their cause.

Like I said, Ian is really slacking at the moment, and it appears that he is not being covered by anyone in marketing. This is a LARGE mistake on his part. There is a LONG time and a great distance ahead for VV.

[WarpedOne]

But you might want to consider being rather generous with your permission.

He is, he is. It is just that the files where given to him on the basis of trust. He does not wan't to betray that trust. Derwin is a fine man. A man of word.

On the qulity and usefullnes of the files: they give away the general design of the thing. There are a few holes to be filled out here and there but that is not too hard - just look at my avatar. Considering the ugliness of Carver One just this shape alone might be worth many dollars.

[Derwin]

But you might want to consider being rather generous with your permission. In my opinion it would be helping VV in their cause.


As WarpedOne has said.... I have indeed been very generous with the files and the project being worked on. I have not turned down even one person who requested anything from me. The only reason I posted the above is because I want people to sign the agreement BEFORE making any files available.

By the way.... ziggy HAS signed the agreement, so you can feel free to send him anything you have. Right now I'm trying to put together ALL of the files provided by Ian so they will be in one place....and easy to access.

Derwin

[Jack Willard]

I did not mean to imply that you were not being generous. You certainly have been.


I'm trying to put together ALL of the files provided by Ian so they will be in one place....and easy to access.

There were other files? no:wor:thy1 hy:per1) Gimme...gimme! =y: I'm already getting bored and frustrated, just like everyone else, with the lack of updates from Ian. I need something to spike my interest again.

Make a new thread folder in the password required R/C project area and all the source files can go there. And our own modified versions can be uploaded there as well for those that might like access to them. Then you can easily control access to them.